The Vit 701 suspension thread
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Max Kool
pro rider
Yes
Really interesting outcome....What setting were done on the adjusters before & after the swap ?
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Max Kool
pro rider
Before: all closed, still way too soft. Hardly noticed a difference anyway.
After: comp 10 clicks open, rebound 5. Still on the firm side, so plenty room for adjustment.
After: comp 10 clicks open, rebound 5. Still on the firm side, so plenty room for adjustment.
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Max Kool
pro rider
Yessir.
After the input from @nampus with the Duke 690 R shock and some pictures from a Duke 690 fitted with a Super Duke 1290 R shock at facebook,
I recently pulled the trigger at a slightly used WP Apex shock from a 2020+ Super Duke 1290 R.
The mounting lenght (356 mm) is only 13 mm shorter than the standard Vitpilen shock (369 mm) and it comes with a hydraulic preload adjuster from factory.
The spring rate is with 85 N/mm somethere between the Vitpilens 110 N/mm and the Duke 690 (R)'s 75 N/mm. I hope it wents out fine because it suits my personal weight.
Besides that it needs some mechanical adjustments regarding the smaller bolt diameter (bushes) and linkage width (saw ;-)) at the Vitpilen.
Now I need some time to get it fitted into my Vitpilen to share first riding comparisons with you.
I recently pulled the trigger at a slightly used WP Apex shock from a 2020+ Super Duke 1290 R.
The mounting lenght (356 mm) is only 13 mm shorter than the standard Vitpilen shock (369 mm) and it comes with a hydraulic preload adjuster from factory.
The spring rate is with 85 N/mm somethere between the Vitpilens 110 N/mm and the Duke 690 (R)'s 75 N/mm. I hope it wents out fine because it suits my personal weight.
Besides that it needs some mechanical adjustments regarding the smaller bolt diameter (bushes) and linkage width (saw ;-)) at the Vitpilen.
Now I need some time to get it fitted into my Vitpilen to share first riding comparisons with you.
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@Vatte 13mm shorter is quite a bit. Combine that with a softer spring and the bike will be very low at the rear. Are you planning to address that?
Thank you for your input!
On one side the Super Duke 1290 R is ~44 kg heavier and on the other side I plan to gain some mounting length through "excentric" bushings.
If this is not helpful at all I can reduce the fork height, too or just change to a higher spring rate if neccessary.
On one side the Super Duke 1290 R is ~44 kg heavier and on the other side I plan to gain some mounting length through "excentric" bushings.
If this is not helpful at all I can reduce the fork height, too or just change to a higher spring rate if neccessary.
BISavage
champion rider
I see that there are different "arm"s available for lowering, would the same principle work in the other direction?
Like one of these, except up and not down:
Like one of these, except up and not down:
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Max Kool
pro rider
Here’s to hoping it will fit with that reservoir directly on the shock body. 
It has the wrong length: 13mm at the shock will probably lower the rear by about 30mm.
It doesn't fit (bolt size and clevis width)
Wrong spring rate
And probably needs revalving.
And before you start modding it, please try to fit it first, just to make sure there is enough room for the reservoir and the preload adjuster hose. I was surprised to see how little room there was between the shock and the airbox when I replaced mine. I couldn't have the remote reservoir banjo face the airbox.
As to what @BISavage said, these links links lower the bike, while it needs to be raised.
What he said, you basically bought a shock that requires a lot of modification:
It has the wrong length: 13mm at the shock will probably lower the rear by about 30mm.
It doesn't fit (bolt size and clevis width)
Wrong spring rate
And probably needs revalving.
And before you start modding it, please try to fit it first, just to make sure there is enough room for the reservoir and the preload adjuster hose. I was surprised to see how little room there was between the shock and the airbox when I replaced mine. I couldn't have the remote reservoir banjo face the airbox.
As to what @BISavage said, these links links lower the bike, while it needs to be raised.
svartron
fast rider
There is a link available for the Svart to rise the rear:
www.bergos.de
Husqvarna Höherlegung Svartpilen 701
Passt auf alle 701 Svartpilen ab 2018. Höherlegungskit um 25mm höher. CNC gefräst incl. alle Lager und Dichtringe. Einfache Montage. Incl.…
www.bergos.de
Edit: @svartron was faster and I didn't reload the site. The manufacturer is ibex...
There are lift kits also, but because of the price it's not the way I want to go.
https://www.ibex-parts.de/Fahrzeugt...rna-Vitpilen-701-BJ-2018-19-25mm-mit-ABE.html
There are lift kits also, but because of the price it's not the way I want to go.
https://www.ibex-parts.de/Fahrzeugt...rna-Vitpilen-701-BJ-2018-19-25mm-mit-ABE.html
For now I have plenty room to the costs of a nitron r3 shock to deal with the right ride height and maybe also another spring rate if not using the spring from the Vitpilens OEM shock.Here’s to hoping it will fit with that reservoir directly on the shock body.
What he said, you basically bought a shock that requires a lot of modification:
It has the wrong length: 13mm at the shock will probably lower the rear by about 30mm.
It doesn't fit (bolt size and clevis width)
Wrong spring rate
And probably needs revalving.
And before you start modding it, please try to fit it first, just to make sure there is enough room for the reservoir and the preload adjuster hose. I was surprised to see how little room there was between the shock and the airbox when I replaced mine. I couldn't have the remote reservoir banjo face the airbox.
As to what @BISavage said, these links links lower the bike, while it needs to be raised.
I bought the SDR shock at a good price, that's why I want to start to tinker a little bit.
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BISavage
champion rider
Yeah, lift kit... I was thinking if it works for down it must be "physically" possible somehow for up too...
With complete rebuild at a suspensions shop and professionally home made parts to make it fit its probably gonna be a cool custom way to save a couple bucks, probably not much more than a couple.
But custom is custom and that is way cooler than only stock
Any ideas for you preload adjustor mountings?
With complete rebuild at a suspensions shop and professionally home made parts to make it fit its probably gonna be a cool custom way to save a couple bucks, probably not much more than a couple.
But custom is custom and that is way cooler than only stock
Any ideas for you preload adjustor mountings?
nampus
top rider
I think that's going to be very tricky to fit with that reservoir.
The Duke R shock just squeezes in. If the powder coat on the spring would be any thicker it wouldn't fit.
I don't know if there will be room for a sideways reservoir.
And as Max said, 13mm at the shock is quite a lot of difference.
And you can't just fit a longer spring to gain the 13mm, because that would leave you without any static sag.
But as always, you don't know until you try. So good luck! I hope it works out!
The Duke R shock just squeezes in. If the powder coat on the spring would be any thicker it wouldn't fit.
I don't know if there will be room for a sideways reservoir.
And as Max said, 13mm at the shock is quite a lot of difference.
And you can't just fit a longer spring to gain the 13mm, because that would leave you without any static sag.
But as always, you don't know until you try. So good luck! I hope it works out!
Thanks for the luck and hope. 
As I wrote I saw pictures of this shock fitted to a Duke 690. Because of that I suggest it would fit to the Vitpilen, too.
Also all the 690/701 SuMo models are equipped with a sideways reservoir.
Hopefuly trial anderror.
As I wrote I saw pictures of this shock fitted to a Duke 690. Because of that I suggest it would fit to the Vitpilen, too.
Also all the 690/701 SuMo models are equipped with a sideways reservoir.
Hopefuly trial and
After clarification of the available options to get the mounting length right, I decides to finish this tinker project. If I heard your advices first. 
With an agressive offset bushings setup it's possible to gain ~5 mm, so there are 8 mm missing. Another 1-2 mm could be gained with a custom silent bushing with a greater inner diameter for the offset bushing. Even with that I would end up with a ~13 to 15 mm lower rear height (ratio = travel/stroke = ~2,18 ).
The lift kit mentioned above lifts the rear height about 25 mm that would nearly clear the 28,3 mm which would be lost with the 13 mm shorter shock. But the manufacturer of the lift kit advised me against this way in a constructive call (the kinematiks will be different/upset).
That's why I'm selling the shock and have to go the way that's already proven to work.
I will ask Nitron the question about the street legality and Wilbers for an offer for the Vitpilen.
With an agressive offset bushings setup it's possible to gain ~5 mm, so there are 8 mm missing. Another 1-2 mm could be gained with a custom silent bushing with a greater inner diameter for the offset bushing. Even with that I would end up with a ~13 to 15 mm lower rear height (ratio = travel/stroke = ~2,18 ).
The lift kit mentioned above lifts the rear height about 25 mm that would nearly clear the 28,3 mm which would be lost with the 13 mm shorter shock. But the manufacturer of the lift kit advised me against this way in a constructive call (the kinematiks will be different/upset).
That's why I'm selling the shock and have to go the way that's already proven to work.
I will ask Nitron the question about the street legality and Wilbers for an offer for the Vitpilen.
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Wilbers response to the question if they offer a compatible shock for the Vitpilen is not of the shelf.
There will be the option to request a custom made shock without warranty and street legality but with 25 % price surcharge.
Therefore I'm asked to do some measurements to check up the installation space.
There will be the option to request a custom made shock without warranty and street legality but with 25 % price surcharge.
Therefore I'm asked to do some measurements to check up the installation space.