Custom tail tidy

[miki]

Hello everyone.

I am working on a custom tail tidy for the 801.
Here are some pictures of a prototype I have been working on, the problem is that my bike has not arrived yet and I have nothing to test on.
I used the template Tom sent me but I need more measurements where the indicators mount to the tail tidy. So if any of you could send me these measurements that would be wonderful.
The license plate light will be from tst industries.
Also if any of you have any suggestions or ideas I would love to hear them.

 

[DKE]

I'm looking forward to the final product!
Would be nice idea to have heatshield for the indicator so it won't melt from the exhaust.

 

[Tom]

Nice!!!!

 

[miki]

I'm looking forward to the final product!
Would be nice idea to have heatshield for the indicator so it won't melt from the exhaust.

With my design the indicators will be so high and forwards that the exhaust heat wont be a problem.
The issue im running into is how to fabricate it. I have a 3d printer but i dont think the plastic will be able to handle the forces from the wind.
Im also worried of the plastic cracking due to temperature changes and I was thinking about making the tail tidy out of carbon fiber but I know the
geometry will be a nightmare to make. I also dont have access to a cnc milling machine.
Any ideas?

 

[801FAN]

Seeing everyone going through such a hassle to make these tidy's, and also on their other bikes, Husquvarna really should have done them right in the first place... And should sell them as aftermarket parts !

 

[yonsson]

I don’t think temperatures or wind will be a problem. The biggest problem will probably be the vibrations.

 

[NORTY FLATZ]

With the improvements in 3-D plastics, you may have something here that's durable and strong.

 

[CRK]

I don’t think temperatures or wind will be a problem. The biggest problem will probably be the vibrations.

I'd have to agree. Water can also be an issue depending on chosen material and UV.

Me and my colleague 3d-print quite a bit and use it in salt water environments where theres a lot of vibrations, sunlight and temperature differences which makes for a really harsh environment. The plastic tends to get quite brittle and if a hygroscopic plastic is used it hastens the degradation. Not too far off from a motorcycle on nordic or northen european roads.

 

[vaïk]

Hello everyone.

I am working on a custom tail tidy for the 801.
Here are some pictures of a prototype I have been working on, the problem is that my bike has not arrived yet and I have nothing to test on.
I used the template Tom sent me but I need more measurements where the indicators mount to the tail tidy. So if any of you could send me these measurements that would be wonderful.
The license plate light will be from tst industries.
Also if any of you have any suggestions or ideas I would love to hear them. View attachment 7996

Hello,
I have the same project, but I've only just started. I was thinking of printing the mounting plate for the motorbike and perhaps the number plate holder to correct the angle. My printing bed is only 22x22, so I can't print everything at once. For the rest, I bought a KTM 390 mount on Aliexpress.
I was thinking of printing it in ASA, I hope it will be strong enough. For now, I only have a rough draft to identify the placement of the fixing screws.
To be continued.

 

[miki]

Hey Vaik

I have some pretty good 3d modeling software and if you would like I could make it for you and then just send you the stl files so you could print the part at home on your 3d printer.
Just send me a pm.

 

[miki]

I'd have to agree. Water can also be an issue depending on chosen material and UV.

Me and my colleague 3d-print quite a bit and use it in salt water environments where theres a lot of vibrations, sunlight and temperature differences which makes for a really harsh environment. The plastic tends to get quite brittle and if a hygroscopic plastic is used it hastens the degradation. Not too far off from a motorcycle on nordic or northen european roads.

For the 3d printing plastic i was thinking about using ABS for its relatively good thermal stability.
After i was thinking about finishing the product with some filler putty to smooth out the 3d print lines and then covering the whole thing in temperature and UV resistant black color.

 

[vaïk]

Hey Vaik

I have some pretty good 3d modeling software and if you would like I could make it for you and then just send you the stl files so you could print the part at home on your 3d printer.
Just send me a pm.

Thank you very much, Miki, but doing it is part of the fun!

 

[vaïk]

Hi everyone, after several rough prints, I have something neat for my modelling skills... I'm using the free version of SketchUp. It's a PLA print. The next step is to print it in ASA and then bake it in the oven to make it more robust. The plate has a 40° angle, but for France it needs to be a maximum of 30°. There's still work to be done...

 

[Tom]

When I adapted the Duke 390 tail tidy, the 40° wasn't enough; the reflector underneath the license plate touched the tire; with 45° instead it worked fine; but the German license plates are differnt to the French license plates; I did the the angle correction simply by bending the license plate mounting-plate.

 

[vaïk]

When I adapted the Duke 390 tail tidy, the 40° wasn't enough; the reflector underneath the license plate touched the tire; with 45° instead it worked fine; but the German license plates are differnt to the French license plates; I did the the angle correction simply by bending the license plate mounting-plate.

Hi, before bending the license plate holder, I'm going to print a part to correct the angle and achieve the 30° required in France. I'll see how it goes depending on the result, but I'm a little afraid of breaking it or warping it. I don't really have the equipment to work with metal...

 

[Tom]

Hi, before bending the license plate holder, I'm going to print a part to correct the angle and achieve the 30° required in France. I'll see how it goes depending on the result, but I'm a little afraid of breaking it or warping it. I don't really have the equipment to work with metal...

Yes, according to the Eurpean requirements the licence plate needs to be 30° or less, but as long as it's not too extreme and as long as the plate is still good visible, it's mostly "accepted" here in Germany; I never had any problems with a more step license plate.

As the plate is made from aluminum, it was quite simple to bend it.

 

[Tom]

I just noticed that your French license plates are only 130mm high; that might help a bit; our German license plates are 200mm.

Here a sketch I did some time ago to check the angle of the plate.

 

[vaïk]

but as long as it's not too extreme and as long as the plate is still good visible, it's mostly "accepted" here in Germany; I never had any problems with a more step license plate.

Hi,
I'm not really worried about the police because if we don't do anything crazy, there's little reason for them to stop us. But it's more the insurance in the event of an accident that could be an issue because the motorbike doesn't meet the standards.

 

[toast449]

There is no way I would trust a plastic base plate for what is effectively a sail attached to the back of a hot, vibrating mass moving at 100 kph.

 

[vaïk]

There is no way I would trust a plastic base plate for what is effectively a sail attached to the back of a hot, vibrating mass moving at 100 kph.

Hi, plastic is sturdy these days, and the plate is behind the motorcycle, so it's pretty well protected from the wind. I'll test it out on the highway and see how it goes! But at 130 km/h, I'll be the first to fly off