JCON
contributing rider
Can anyone tell me if the Vitpilen 701 uses the same size Triple-Tree as the Vitpilen 401?
Can anyone tell me if the Vitpilen 701 uses the same size Triple-Tree as the Vitpilen 401?
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Liteway
expert rider
Don't see how. According to Cycleworld,
401 has 3.7 inch trail
701 has 4.3
401 has 3.7 inch trail
701 has 4.3
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JCON
contributing rider
I'm sorry, I don't know what "trail" means in this context. Would you mind clarifying? Thanks
Liteway
expert rider
Sorry, I spoke too soon, I confused trial with offset. With different offsets (distance of the steering axis behind the fork tubes) they would not be interchangeable. different trails , I do not know.
"The trail of a motorcycle is defined as the distance measured form the center of the front tire’s contact patch to the ground and the point where an imaginary line passing through the center of the headstock axis meets the ground."
"The trail of a motorcycle is defined as the distance measured form the center of the front tire’s contact patch to the ground and the point where an imaginary line passing through the center of the headstock axis meets the ground."
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JCON
contributing rider
Ah. My issue stems from trying to install risers (Gilles Tooling)...The bars don't appear to be the same diameter on the 701 as they are on the 401?
GeoKrpan
top rider
I looked on Revzilla for parts for the Vitpilen 701 and for the Vitpilen 401. The grips found were 7/8", 22mm, for both the 701 and the 401.
In other words, the diameter of the bars is the same on the both the 701 and 401.
701 bars should plug right in to the 401 triple clamp, and 401 bars should plug right in to the 701 triple clamp.
One pair of grips can be fatter than another pair on the outside diameter yet both pairs share the same inside diameter.
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JCON
contributing rider
That was my thinking as well, unfortunately, there's no way this set of 32mm riser is going to fit snugly in the 22mm cone-shaped hole of my vitpilen 401. $300 later and a bunch of european sass...I guess we'll see what happens when i receive the longer bolts I ordered to circumvent european engineering excellence. 
GeoKrpan
top rider
That was my thinking as well, unfortunately, there's no way this set of 32mm riser is going to fit snugly in the 22mm cone-shaped hole of my vitpilen 401. $300 later and a bunch of european sass...I guess we'll see what happens when i receive the longer bolts I ordered to circumvent european engineering excellence.
Can you post a pic of or a link to the risers that you bought?
I'm having a hard time visualizing what you bought.
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JCON
contributing rider
Lozion
expert rider
This, according to the german gentleman I contacted last spring who designed it will NOT work on a 401:
Lozion
expert rider
On May 30, 2022, at 10:56 AM, Ralf Kahllenberger <R.Kahllenberger@gillestooling.com> wrote:
Hello Mr L.
this item does not fit the 401, it is only suitable for the 701, I am sorry.
Best regards
Ralf Kahllenberger
GILLES Tooling
Hello Mr L.
this item does not fit the 401, it is only suitable for the 701, I am sorry.
Best regards
Ralf Kahllenberger
GILLES Tooling
That's right the Gilles risers don't fit the 401. But there are many riser options for the 401 out there.
e.g.:
roxspeedfx.com
More details you can find in this thread: https://hqvadventure.com/forum/threads/passenger-comfort-2021-vitpilen-401.821/
e.g.:
KTM 390 & Husqvarna Svartpilen 401 1 3/4" Pivoting Handlebar Risers fo
Made in the USA 1 3/4" (44.5mm) Center-to-Center Rise Pivots Backward/Forward based on Rider Preference 26mm Stem Accepts 26mm Handlebar Will NOT on the SMC-R!! They have a different bar diameter Always check and confirm that your machine has adequate cable and brake line length before...
roxspeedfx.com
GeoKrpan
top rider
That's right the Gilles risers don't fit the 401. But there are many riser options for the 401 out there.
e.g.:
More details you can find in this thread: https://hqvadventure.com/forum/threads/passenger-comfort-2021-vitpilen-401.821/KTM 390 & Husqvarna Svartpilen 401 1 3/4" Pivoting Handlebar Risers fo
Made in the USA 1 3/4" (44.5mm) Center-to-Center Rise Pivots Backward/Forward based on Rider Preference 26mm Stem Accepts 26mm Handlebar Will NOT on the SMC-R!! They have a different bar diameter Always check and confirm that your machine has adequate cable and brake line length before...
Those are for Svartpilen.
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JCON
contributing rider
This is all great stuff, but can any one tell me why the riser fits the 22mm insert on a 701, but not the 22mm insert on a 401? Also, why does GILLES tooling not make this discrepancy clear on their website??!?
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JCON
contributing rider
thankyou, I was about to lose it.
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JCON
contributing rider
Great. What is your return policy?
GeoKrpan
top rider
I can't see why they wouldn't work on the 401.
I'm not saying they do work on the 401, I'm just saying I can't see why they wouldn't work on the 401.
GeoKrpan
top rider
Have you tried to install them on the 401?
GeoKrpan
top rider
That was my thinking as well, unfortunately, there's no way this set of 32mm riser is going to fit snugly in the 22mm cone-shaped hole of my vitpilen 401. $300 later and a bunch of european sass...I guess we'll see what happens when i receive the longer bolts I ordered to circumvent european engineering excellence.
Sorry, I see you did try to install them.
Evidently the "hole" is cone shaped and shaped differently on the 401.
