toast449
top rider
Well shit...
Mounted wave front disc
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If you compare the friction coefficient of the SR pads over the SA pads you can see that the SR pad has always a higher friction coefficient even at starting point of the curves (50 °C). Some guys including me went with the SR pads on the 701 and we are really happy with it. I even ride the SX pads in the rear.
I tried to draw the SR curve into the ROAD diagram.
original RACE diagram:
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BISavage
champion rider
I now use the KTM/Brembo sintered ones.
Seems to give the right feel for my preference when in combination with the wave rotor.
Seems to give the right feel for my preference when in combination with the wave rotor.
Thanks for your answer, I have a 2020 Vitpilen with the rims without inner tube, so for those if the parts you ordered work if I understood correctly? Because your Italian site has very interesting pricesHello,
I haven't received my rotors yet as they are still in transit with FedEx. Unfortunately... I think I've accidentally ordered rotors for the cast wheel 401s. Here is the page from the Galfer EU catalogue I used to find the part numbers to order: View attachment 4951
Note that there is no listing for the 17-18 bikes, but 19 onwards list the DF940CW front rotor. Herein lies the issue - I have since confirmed that all spoke wheeled Vitpilen & Svartpilen 401 use the same front rotor regardless of model year. It seems that Galfer only sell directly the front rotor for cast wheel 401s under their own brand... DF940CW is also listed for 390 Duke and RC 390, so definitely not for the spoked wheel models.
Rear rotor is the same between cast and spoked wheels for some reason, so I think I will be okay there.
I'm very sorry if I've misled anybody (@toast449). I trusted the catalogue as my MY22 Vitpilen is EU market...
Here is an article with a friction coefficient chart (!): Brembo Guide to the Right Pad
It was difficult to find English-language information on the various Brembo compounds - they do not seem to be widely popular/available outside of Italy. I ended up watching a review on YouTube in Italian with English subtitles. The consensus seemed to be that the SR compound (which Brembo classes as a race pad) is questionable for road use due to poor cold bite, even on heavy, high-powered motorcycles, so I decided to buy the SA (front) paired with the SP (rear).
Brief thoughts: SA compound offers improved stopping power with somewhat reduced lever effort compared to stock pads, with the exception of the very first cold stop where they are similar. Once they are warmed performance is much improved. I do not remember triggering ABS on the rear brake prior to installing the Brembo SP, where now the ABS threshold is easily reached with what I would consider to be moderate pedal pressure under all conditions.
@VIppen Apologies... it seems I've hijacked your thread.
@Vatte On the subject of the pads then advise the SR of brembo for the wave rotor of Galfer? I don't use the bike for day to day riding but for outings where we ride quite aggressively.
@BISavage I see you talk about the sintered ones but what is the name in the brembo catalog of those?
Thank you all for your contribution and answers
But you drive a 701, don't you ? because from what I read, SR's are literally for track use because you need to warm them up a lot to get the best performance out of them. I agree with you that comparing the tables it is understood that even for road use the SR's are the best but according to what I read on the Brembo site for a light bike like the 401 it seems that they will not be effective as they need constant heating for good performance. How did they work out for you, do you feel any difference when they are cold and then hot? Or do they give you the same performance cold and hot?
The weight difference is only ~10 kg between 401 and 701. Also I've done some weight reduction modifications. So the weight is not a factor in this comparison. I never need more than one finger for sufficient brake power. Two finger mode only in scary moments. 
I can't figure out a significant/feelable difference from cold to warm.
I can't figure out a significant/feelable difference from cold to warm.
BISavage
champion rider
The pads I use are the ones you can buy from Husqvarna (KTM) dealership / parts store; theyre not listed in the Brembo aftermarket catalog.
They say Brembo on them with a KTM part number, similar to the Galfer rotor from KTM which has both Galfer and KTM lasered on it.
To your front, the rotor on the wire spoke wheels and the alloy wheels have a different inner diameter for where the bolt holes go, thats why a different one is required depending on which wheel type.
Thanks, very clear, I have the wheel on my ID Picture, Galfer DF940CW wave rotor from they fit whit those part? Because on the website it's only said 2019 but it's not clear
BISavage
champion rider
I guess you could see if the part number can be read from the brake you have on now and google it for the fitment... when its the same as duke / rc 390 then you know.
Hi there, I'm the owner of a 2018 svart, so I've the same problem. I think the part you talked about is the "KTM 28509960000":Hello,
I haven't received my rotors yet as they are still in transit with FedEx. Unfortunately... I think I've accidentally ordered rotors for the cast wheel 401s. Here is the page from the Galfer EU catalogue I used to find the part numbers to order: View attachment 4951
Note that there is no listing for the 17-18 bikes, but 19 onwards list the DF940CW front rotor. Herein lies the issue - I have since confirmed that all spoke wheeled Vitpilen & Svartpilen 401 use the same front rotor regardless of model year. It seems that Galfer only sell directly the front rotor for cast wheel 401s under their own brand... DF940CW is also listed for 390 Duke and RC 390, so definitely not for the spoked wheel models.
Rear rotor is the same between cast and spoked wheels for some reason, so I think I will be okay there.
I'm very sorry if I've misled anybody (@toast449). I trusted the catalogue as my MY22 Vitpilen is EU market...
Here is an article with a friction coefficient chart (!): Brembo Guide to the Right Pad
It was difficult to find English-language information on the various Brembo compounds - they do not seem to be widely popular/available outside of Italy. I ended up watching a review on YouTube in Italian with English subtitles. The consensus seemed to be that the SR compound (which Brembo classes as a race pad) is questionable for road use due to poor cold bite, even on heavy, high-powered motorcycles, so I decided to buy the SA (front) paired with the SP (rear).
Brief thoughts: SA compound offers improved stopping power with somewhat reduced lever effort compared to stock pads, with the exception of the very first cold stop where they are similar. Once they are warmed performance is much improved. I do not remember triggering ABS on the rear brake prior to installing the Brembo SP, where now the ABS threshold is easily reached with what I would consider to be moderate pedal pressure under all conditions.
@VIppen Apologies... it seems I've hijacked your thread.
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Can you confirm this? Could you find the right part?
Thanks in advanced for the help
did the same with my vitpilen 401, fitted galfer rotor and ebc sinterd pads...... lever pulses are gone, but i feel that the pads dont bite as much as stock but maybe that is because they are still new and they are not quite bedeed in yet and another thing I notice that riding in supermoto mode the Abs it is not near as intrusive