Tire choices for Svartpilen

Vintage Veloce

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Given the relative high cost of tires, I always replace the tubes and rim strips when changing.
I've encountered too many used older bikes with positively ancient tubes in their tires.
Of course, tubes and tires can and do last a while, and the ancient tubes in some of these bikes are evidence of that. But personally, it's just not much additional expanse to put the new tubes and rim strips in.

On HD tubes:
I wouldn't put HD tubes in a street bike used on mild roads. Especially if you maintain close to stock tire pressures. They aren't going to help with a puncture by a nail or a screw. They are more helpful preventing "pinch flats" when an underinflated tire is smashed into the rim by a sharp bump.
I do put HD tubes on my enduro bike, where I never run more than 14PSI.

On sealing the RIM instead of tubes:
I really don't get this. For off road use, being able to easily swap the tube is a great positive feature! Especially with the possibility of pinch flats that are harder to patch.
For street use, where your only real concern is punctures, it makes more sense if you just want to use plugs in the tire. But most manufacturers don't recommend that. That said, if I got lots of punctures on the street, I might consider it.
 

Dan00Hawk

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When you look at the pic above, thats what I would recommend, original stuff.

Just because the tires are worn doesnt mean the tubes or rim tape are also at the end of their usable lifetime.
So I would recommend having the stuff on hand and then looking if its good or not once the tires are off.

As far as HD / non HD Tubes... do you get flats? If not, than no need to try a heavier duty type unless you plan to try much rougher terrain.
That makes sense about the rim tape and tubes still possibly being in good shape, but having new ones available just in case.

I haven't had any flats (knock on wood). My concern with the tubes is that they are going in tires that are a tubeless design (The Pirelli STR and my soon to arrive Dunlop Mutant). Supposedly due to this, they generate a bit more heat/friction and prevailing wisdom is that the speed rating of the tire is knocked down by one level as a result. Not that I've had any issues riding at 80mph for an hour which is well within most any speed rating. I hate adding extra weight that is unnecessary, especially on rotational mass, so I'd prefer to go with a standard tube which should be fine (unless it currently uses an HD tube?).

On the other hand, if I can seal up the spokes and eliminate the tubes entirely, that might be a better long term solution and allow easier flat repair (when it inevitably happens).
 

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Given the relative high cost of tires, I always replace the tubes and rim strips when changing.
I've encountered too many used older bikes with positively ancient tubes in their tires.
Of course, tubes and tires can and do last a while, and the ancient tubes in some of these bikes are evidence of that. But personally, it's just not much additional expanse to put the new tubes and rim strips in.

On HD tubes:
I wouldn't put HD tubes in a street bike used on mild roads. Especially if you maintain close to stock tire pressures. They aren't going to help with a puncture by a nail or a screw. They are more helpful preventing "pinch flats" when an underinflated tire is smashed into the rim by a sharp bump.
I do put HD tubes on my enduro bike, where I never run more than 14PSI.

On sealing the RIM instead of tubes:
I really don't get this. For off road use, being able to easily swap the tube is a great positive feature! Especially with the possibility of pinch flats that are harder to patch.
For street use, where your only real concern is punctures, it makes more sense if you just want to use plugs in the tire. But most manufacturers don't recommend that. That said, if I got lots of punctures on the street, I might consider it.
I would liken that to "preventative maintenance". In many cases, it makes sense to change out a few things "while you're at it" so that it's not an issue down the road. Like when changing the timing belt on some cars, it makes sense to do the water pump at the same time since the majority of the labor time is already accounted for.

I don't do much rough off road, just an occasional dirt or gravel road with few jagged rocks (although it only takes one!). And hopefully my Jedi-like skills allow me to keep dodging the puncture type of debris on the streets. ;) Seems like a standard tube should be fine for my needs.
 

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@Dan00Hawk did you get a chance to try out that Dunlop?

I just picked up another STR for the back as its gettin close, front one looks like its fresh outta truck though so its stayin on.
 

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@Dan00Hawk did you get a chance to try out that Dunlop?

I just picked up another STR for the back as its gettin close, front one looks like its fresh outta truck though so its stayin on.
I'm still gradually wearing out my STRs. Mutants are in the garage. At this point of the year, I'll probably just swap them out during the winter.
 

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Yeah, I was considering picking up those motorcycle tire changing tools... probably way easier than I assume
I bought mine online from Cycle Gear, and one of their shops near me will change them for $25 per tire including balancing (which I don't believe I could do). Cheap enough for me to drop them off and let them do it.
 

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I bought mine online from Cycle Gear, and one of their shops near me will change them for $25 per tire including balancing (which I don't believe I could do). Cheap enough for me to drop them off and let them do it.

Yeah, I get mine online and a shop down the street does it for me for about the same when I bring them the wheels off the bike.

I find it crazy that they balance motorcycle tires without a machine. 🙉
 
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