Bike shut off after 2 minutes while idling in the garage

[Fighter]

i am about to receive my a Vitpilen 801, I have been reading this forum since i ordered the bike, did not know about this "problem".
My quesrtion is quite simple, is this really a problem or you can deal with it not using the FuelX you people are telling...
I do not like to make changes in a bike, specially ECU or electronics changes...but to be truth stalling a bike on the road migth be a great safety problem...

I have done only 2000km but I haven't experienced stalling. It is true that the bike can stutters if you go really low on revs (probably like any new bike with euro 5+ as their mixture is too lean). I foresee this being an issue if you use it a lot.in the city. For me, living in a small town with little traffic it is not a problem. And for the legal speeds in Spain (30-50km/h in towns) you don't even need to use second gear.

To sum up, the bike has KTM DNA and doesn't like going slow. Ride it as if it was stolen and you won't experience any problems (besides traffic tickets hehe)

 

[yonsson]

To sum up, the bike has KTM DNA and doesn't like going slow. Ride it as if it was stolen and you won't experience any problems (besides traffic tickets hehe)

To sum it up, it has bad fuel/air mixture at low revs and you can’t ride it properly on lower revs.

 

[yonsson]

i am about to receive my a Vitpilen 801, I have been reading this forum since i ordered the bike, did not know about this "problem".
My quesrtion is quite simple, is this really a problem or you can deal with it not using the FuelX you people are telling...
I do not like to make changes in a bike, specially ECU or electronics changes...but to be truth stalling a bike on the road migth be a great safety problem...

It’s not a jerky bike like some of the Japanese bikes, it feels good right out of the box. But good isn’t great, that’s the difference a fuel dongle gives you. + I had issues with the bike stalling, sometimes when driving which is really dangerous.

 

[jacasado]

wow...driving a bike with that issue is mora than dangerous, not just for you...i will have to keep an eye on that issue.
I love to drive the bike smooth and with "flow"...i have always driven 4 cylinders (kawa always), it´s my 1st 2 cylinders bike with that displacement...hope to enjoy the bike.
On city rides i like to drive in long gears...letting the bike run at low rpm...searching for economy fuel consumption

 

[Tom]

wow...driving a bike with that issue is mora than dangerous, not just for you...i will have to keep an eye on that issue.
I love to drive the bike smooth and with "flow"...i have always driven 4 cylinders (kawa always), it´s my 1st 2 cylinders bike with that displacement...hope to enjoy the bike.
On city rides i like to drive in long gears...letting the bike run at low rpm...searching for economy fuel consumption

In my opinion it's definitely not that bad!!
As I said before: The engine simply needs some revs. Yes, some AFR optimization might help a bit at low speed and low revs; but it will not change the main characteristic of the engine.
If you are looking for a bike that is primarily suitable for some leisurely cruising at low revs (for example through town), the 801 and any other bike with the LC8c parallel twin engine is definitely not the best choice.
On the other hand, if you're looking for a bike that you like to (at least sometimes) "ride it like you stole it", the bike and the engine are simply perfect.

Here from a Duke 790 review from 2018 (first generation) about the engine.
"Typical KTM: The new twin-cylinder engine in the brand's signature steel trellis frame is no conventional inline engine. The 75-degree crankpin offset allows it to produce the same sonorous, even earth-shattering, burble or roar that one expects from a 75-degree V-twin from the Austrian brand. And: The raw sound of the 105-hp engine perfectly reflects its edgy character. When its thirst for revs is satisfied, it rewards with exhilarating acceleration, yet it also has plenty of torque from low revs. However, the 0.8-liter twin can be a bit temperamental at cruising speeds – a phenomenon the slightly annoyed biker might call constant-speed surging.
But this motorcycle-bike combination isn't really designed for leisurely cruising. Instead, you constantly enjoy the catapult-like acceleration of the KTM 790 Duke."

 

[jacasado]

Yes, i know about the "macho" bike the 790 duke is.
But for me , a bike stopping suddenly just because there is not enough throttle is a BIG mistake. I do not care if this comes from Honda, Kawa or whatever brand...is just something totally inaceptable...IMO

 

[yonsson]

Yes, i know about the "macho" bike the 790 duke is.
But for me , a bike stopping suddenly just because there is not enough throttle is a BIG mistake. I do not care if this comes from Honda, Kawa or whatever brand...is just something totally inaceptable...IMO

Agree! I ride in the city at low revs everyday.

 

[Tom]

Yes, i know about the "macho" bike the 790 duke is.
But for me , a bike stopping suddenly just because there is not enough throttle is a BIG mistake. I do not care if this comes from Honda, Kawa or whatever brand...is just something totally inaceptable...IMO

I do also agree; if it would be that bad, it would definitely be inaceptable!!
But as I already said before; in my opinion it's definitely not that bad!!

I own my 801 since mid 24; not every day (as I don't use the bike for commuting), but nevertheless I rode the bike also very often with relatively low revs at low speed through the city and small villages; and it stalled not one single time!!! ...and not because I'm "supernatural" , but because I simply got used to the characteristic of the engine.

Ultimately, don't stress yourself too much with this theme and just try out how the 801 works for you.