Badwinners Performance Kit

Damon

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Hi new(ish) owner here !
Anyone installed the BW Performance kit ?
I like the thought of most performance mods done in one go and I quite fancy keeping the original end can...
 
I was under the impression that the performance kit is made for, and includes the BW version of the SC Project can with DB killer.

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The Stage 1 utilizes stock pipe and comes with the rear subframe / air box delete.

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I was under the impression that the performance kit is made for, and includes the BW version of the SC Project can with DB killer.

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The Stage 1 utilizes stock pipe and comes with the rear subframe / air box delete.

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That is originally what I thought too, with a choice of 3 different SC cans. It is possible to click "none" on the can choice though and the price is much reduced to 700Euro, so I am thinking that must use the stock can which i quite like

I just wondered if anyone else on the forum had purchased the kit to see whether it was a smart thing to do
 
I would recommend contacting them directly about the power commander tune and its "prerequisites" if you are really interested.
 
I literally just did that here's what they said ;

You can order the kit without SC-Project muffler.
And of course you can install with original muffler.
The Performance kit include our decat pipe and works with the original muffler

So it looks good value , if like me, you think the original end can looks good
 
I'm not a fan of BW's consumer-side behavior. They clearly can do well with design and custom creation, but their customer support and reliability of production is poor.

How many times can they miss their mark on dates/timing re the dash before one says they suck at management? When a producer determines dates/times, one must consider external obstacles and potential problems and factor that in appropriately. And if you have unknowns, you make educated and conservative guesses at them while pressuring them to resolve. If you miss half a dozen ship dates, you do not do this well.

I have ordered the dash, not yet received. I have ordered the bracket to re-install the lower cowling as well. It was received, but was mis-machined. They would not acknowledge the error or accept that it was a second, but just kept saying "it will work." But in the end, they refunded me 25% of the cost - this, after 20 emails back and forth.

I think their dash is sweet, especially after the updated interface, but I'm concerned for reliability and support if their are problems. Mine has supposedly shipped, but WTFK?

Good luck if you've purchased from them.
 
Great post @DWB
I want to point out though its not manufacturing problems and delivery delays that are something that only happen to one or the other type of company... thats how it is...
Bottom line is, its how these obstacle are tackled and how well they have been communicated that make a good company an excellent company.

I have held out on the dash order up to now...
 
I have ordered mounting bracket and decat from BW 2 years ago and no problems and fast delivery. My new dash arrived before new year and works well so far. They sent me emails and informed about delays a few times, when I emailed them to change delivery adress for dash, due to beeing away for a few weeks, I got instant response and the shipping went to desired adress. The dash story with all delays is a pain in the .... but I really think they did their best and actually a good thing that they tested it themselves quite some time so they found the sw issues.

So for me, I have always gotten answers on my emails and good info about what is happening., it is still a very small company with limited resources. Sorry to hear that others have had problems.
 
I have ordered mounting bracket and decat from BW 2 years ago and no problems and fast delivery. My new dash arrived before new year and works well so far. They sent me emails and informed about delays a few times, when I emailed them to change delivery adress for dash, due to beeing away for a few weeks, I got instant response and the shipping went to desired adress. The dash story with all delays is a pain in the .... but I really think they did their best and actually a good thing that they tested it themselves quite some time so they found the sw issues.

So for me, I have always gotten answers on my emails and good info about what is happening., it is still a very small company with limited resources. Sorry to hear that others have had problems.

So you're saying you've had the badwinners dash on your bike for over a week and yet there are no pictures attached to your post ☹️





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So you're saying you've had the badwinners dash on your bike for over a week and yet there are no pictures attached to your post ☹️





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:) yes, and it seems very nice, have only driven a little bit in the big garage I have my bike in, with the new dash mounted. Still even have the protective plastic on screen, they attached another screen protection that I will try. Away abroad for work at the moment so will try it later.
The touchscreen seems to work smooth, at least without gloves but it is stated that it should work even with gloves. Easy to turn of TC and more on the screen.
 

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I actually doubt that. Seeing how hard it is to squeeze some extra top end ponies from these bikes, and how well/hard it runs bog stock, I'm afraid the top end gains are marginal at a noticeable loss in midrange punch.
Exactly how Leo sells the decat... power loss pipe, and thermodynamics says the PCV isnt enough steroids to replace actual metal.

I am sure its lighter though, raises the center of gravity by for sure an inch.

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